I think it is absolutely apalling...

[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

... that members of this community felt the need to attack another member to the point where she deleted her post.

So much for being a place to express yourself.

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[mactavish.livejournal.com]

Did I miss something?

[wyliekat.livejournal.com]

That was my question - what the hell happened?

[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

Another member posted something about the fertility awareness method (though she called it something eelse, I can't recall what) - and people ripped into her for doing so.

I tried to find the psot this morning, and it's gone - she deleted it because she was tired of people fighting.

We all get to have our own opinions, and don't have to agree with others - but attacking each other is just plain not cool.

[wyliekat.livejournal.com]

Yeah - seems to be a lot of hostility in the air lately. I agree that there's nothing wrong with differing opinions, but I hate the gang up tactic (which is what I'm guessing happened from what you said). If someone has already made your point there's no need to reiterate.

[scarlett75.livejournal.com]

A) She didn't delete it because other people were fighting over it.
B) No body "attacked" her... the comments made were attempts to give everyone both the pros and cons of the argument...which, by the way the writer and the people who responded discussed both in the hut and out of it.
C) You're right, this community is about opinions and sharing, but opinions also include those that do not agree with your own, or with that which you are posting.
D) Informed debates are NEVER harmful, especially in a forum like this. Knowledge of our bodies is our right and responsibility... that includes knowing both sides to every issue, especially when the issue regards birth control or awareness of our fertility. THis is the perfect forum for such a debate.
That said...I hope you don't think that anytime someone disagrees with something you like that it's a personal attack on that person. If so, I'm sorry...but that's just not how it is!

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[scarlett75.livejournal.com]

I'm glad not everyone hates me!! :)

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[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

I don't hate you!! =) And I don't recall seeing you post anything that made my hackles raise. I don't know what the final straw was for this person, the straw that caused her to delete the entire post, but I can only imagine, given how heated the debate was getting!

I have seriously mixed feelings about NFP/FAM, and am too paranoid to use it as a single method - but I think it was great that someone brought it up. If nothing else, it makes women pay more attention to their bodies, and feel more empowered. I mean, I've known women who had no idea what was going on "down there" and put it all into their doctors' hands... and that makes me nutty. =(

I'm just all for anything that gives us a better understanding of how these amazing bodies work, and it really bothered me that someone felt attacked, and that a post I was finding really interesting was deleted.

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[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

A) Really? That's not what I was told.
B) Most of the people who were giving cons were not those who had any experience with this method.
C) Disagreement is fine. But people who do not have informed opinions should not put on airs that suggest otherwise.
D) Debates are great, and informative. That eing said, I do NOT think that anytime someone disagrees with something I like that it's a personal attack on that person. When I see phrases like "you are so irresponsible for promoting this," yes, I take THAT as a personal attack. Sorry, that's just the way that it is!

[adamantplatypus.livejournal.com]

Ditto. I check this community several times a day, and I'm not sure what's meant by this. *confused*

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[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

Another member posted something about the fertility awareness method (though she called it something else, I can't recall what) - and people ripped into her for doing so.

I tried to find the post this morning, and it's gone - she deleted it because she was tired of people fighting.

We all get to have our own opinions, and don't have to agree with others - but attacking each other is just plain not cool.

[mactavish.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah, I noticed that. Since I absolutely can't get pregnant (I take a drug that causes horrendous fetal defects), I honestly didn't even read the thread. I don't even ponder "fertility awareness" as an option. But I recognize that it is the right choice for some people.

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[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

I always look forward to your two cents - you're a great resource!

[scottobear.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry that's the case... as the admin, I apologise profusely for any antagonism.

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[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

It's OK, and I'm grateful that you've taken the time to set up this community! I simply wanted to make the point that while debate is fine, attacks are not, and pig piles of criticism are both unneccessary and tacky.

=)

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[scottobear.livejournal.com]

yup, the mission statment of the hut in it's bio agrees.

[namaste21.livejournal.com]

I agree. I, for one, found the post helpful.

[eenie.livejournal.com]

i read the entire thread yesterday, and didn't see anything that was necessarily anyone attacking the poster. it seemed as if everyone was merely stating their opinions, pro and con, of the method.
if someone were to post something saying that they loved pads, and i were to reply saying that i hated pads and liked tampons, would that be attacking them?

[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

Nope - but if you had never in your life used pads, and didn't know a lot about how pads work, and in your cons/criticism said things like, oh I don't know, maybe "And besides, people are alwys wanting to crash at your pad once you have one" leading others who actually use pads bought at CVS or what have you to think that you're talking about an entirely different kind of pad than that which they are discussing, well, that kinda gets your goat.

[ex-ending606.livejournal.com]

I agree. Especially in light of recent events, you'd think we could all put away our petty differences and grant one another at least the right to make a harmless post in a public forum.

Gah, people.

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[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

Gah, people, indeed! =)

Can't we all just get along???

[kanga2roos.livejournal.com]

I don't think anyone attacked her. She wasn't totally polite to everyone else, either. It seemed to me that she had the attitude that all forms of birth control besides hers was bad since it didn't work for her. That was likely not what she meant, but it's how she came across. And, as far as I can tell, 'the poster' didn't say why she decided to delete her post.

-kanga

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[rupie-zum.livejournal.com]

It seemed to me that 'the poster' was getting annoyed with people who were giving her knee-jerk, ill-informed reactions (I saw at least two posts which clearly equated what she was discussing with the Rhythym Method, which it absolutely is not).

That's just my perception, and I can totally see how others might see it differently.

But I do have it on good authority that the post was deleted becasue of the fighting, and I hate seeing that. Debate this stuff to the heavens, cos that's how we learn!

[amylynn.livejournal.com]

I sincerely hope you don't think I was "attacking" anyone... because I wasn't. I'm always up for a good debate, and sometimes I attempt to start them with people who often can't take it, or take it way too personally. (Just because I argue with what you say, doesn't mean I don't love you to bits and pieces! Ask any of my friends. LOL)
-amy... who was coming to check back on that post just this minute...