THIS IS A CRIME AND WE DEMAND JUSTICE!
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menstrualhutIsn't it ironic that women are applauded and even encouraged to do things like staple their stomachs shut, insert silicone into their breasts, inject collagen into their lips, etc., but are criticized and condemned when they simply participate in the non-action of allowing their body hair the sovereignty it demands? It is obvious to me what is going on here. We are being told subliminally and explicitly that we are not worthy of love and acceptance as inherent rights. We must change, sculpt, augment, purge, cut, shear, dye, paint, and pluck? To be "feminine?" To be "ladylike?"
And the monthly evidence of our power to create, our undeniable connection to our true goddess identities, is looked upon as shameful and ugly and dirty.
And the monthly evidence of our power to create, our undeniable connection to our true goddess identities, is looked upon as shameful and ugly and dirty.
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I wouldn't DREAM of telling another woman that it's WRONG....but if I get to the point it's worse than stubble, I won't let me legs touch and refuse to wear anything but long pants. I personally think it's gross.
I mean...I see what you're saying, but there are those of us that HAVEN'T been brain washed and still find we like things that are poular and don't like things that are unpopular.
It's all a matter of taste, we're not all doing it or not because society says we have to or shouldn't. It's just when a select group FORCE other people to share the same views that it's a problem.
NOT MY MESSAGE AT ALL
Date: 2002-01-27 01:40 am (UTC)It just seems that the widely-held view, which is a fairly recently formed one, comparatively speaking, that we are not gorgeous AS IS is distorted and faulty and ultimately damaging. To us all. If they can keep us silent and pretty, and at the throats of one another, the patriarchy has successfully done its job.
peace to you, sister. and blessings of Gaia.
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Date: 2002-01-27 04:29 am (UTC)Re: NOT MY MESSAGE AT ALL
but isn't our society pushing in a new direction regarding masculine and feminine?
i mean comon....waaaaaaay back girls had long hair, and ALWAYS wore dresses, men were in charge, all women were supposed to do was cook, clean, and have children...
things have changed...now you have gay rights...so there are "butchy" girl and "girly" guys....so how can you say that we are strong in our opinions of what a man and woman would be like?
everything is going so much more towards "be yourself" rather than "be like me" in a lot of ways
i hate dresses..won't wear em if i can get around it...does that make me less feminine??
I have big muscles and i'm tuff....but no one ever called me "butch" for that...i'm not gonna starve myself to become an anorexic cover-model girly girl for a guy..
heh
my good friend is a lesbian...real tuff girl...big arms...dressed in black and chains....manliest girl i know...but ya know what? i can't say there is one guy i know that wouldn't say she is beautiful..
looks don't matter..character
in the end isn't that what it comes down to? what a person's made of????
and i have NEVER judged someone by their looks...and i hope you haven't done the same..but seeing how you write/what you write..seems like its what you are concerned with..and you think the rest of the world is concerned with....which is totally not true..
-Heather-
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Date: 2002-01-28 04:39 am (UTC)Re: NOT MY MESSAGE AT ALL
Date: 2002-01-27 09:41 pm (UTC)BUT
i have to say that sadly, the state of the world is not such.
some geograpical areas are less ignorant than others, but there's *always* someone who will chastise a boy for being too "girly" (what exactly does that mean, anyway? don't get me started on gender stereotypes in children...), or a girl for being too masculine (same note as previous).
so yeah, some people are much more openminded about what being male or female really means -- but many, many people still call short-haired women man-hating dykes, and call sensitive guys pussies (as if being a vagina is an insult, lol) or any number of other things...
i'm glad you haven't experienced that kind of ignorance, though... :)
-amy
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Date: 2002-01-27 11:41 pm (UTC)thank you my lovely sister.
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Date: 2002-01-28 04:38 am (UTC)Re: NOT MY MESSAGE AT ALL
Date: 2002-01-28 01:24 pm (UTC)natural beauty is a wonderful thing, and everyone has it whether they realize it or not... it just saddens me that so many people *don't* realize it because they're too busy slurping down Slim-Fast and caking on makeup and applying 27 different hair products. [not that I would say there's anything inherently wrong with doing any of the above, but it should be for oneself and not because one thinks others think one should look that way...]
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Date: 2002-01-27 05:45 am (UTC)Of course, that still doesn't account for beards on men, which disgust me far more than any hair on my own body.
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Date: 2002-01-27 05:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-01-27 07:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-01-27 06:24 am (UTC)YAY!!!!!!!!
Date: 2002-01-27 02:44 am (UTC)Re: YAY!!!!!!!!
Date: 2002-01-27 03:03 am (UTC)SISTERHOOD AND SOLIDARITY!!
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Date: 2002-01-27 04:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-01-27 04:56 am (UTC)That does seem ridiculous. Here's my thing...my eyebrows are like a banzai tree to me. A hobby of sorts. :) I agree that we shouldn't have to do those things to look feminine. However, and this must be said, I would *not* want my boyfriend to grow a beard. Any beard. I *want* him to shave his face. Beards stink (some more than others), they collect things, they're scratchy and I hate them, yet they are completely natural. So. It almost becomes a reverse double standard for me.
I shave my legs whenever I feel like it/remember. I am not too serious about it. I shave my underarms maybe once a week. I'm way more concerned with my eyebrows.
I think that breast implants are just bizarre, and I don't understand why anyone would ever get them for cosmetic purposes, though almost anything is fair game for reconstructive purposes. The pain, scarring and expense just seem disporportionate to the "problem" of small breasts. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
yay!
I was harassed all through jr.high and even now about having small boobs...and my friends always say once they're old enough they're going to get implants..and for what? to look good, impress everyone else.
I've never plucked my eyebrows before in my life and I never plan on..although i've been told they're a nice size/shape anywayz
shaving..well...if i wanna shave, I'll shave...if I don't...i wont. i dont care what people think....i mean yesterday i said to my new bf "haven't shaved my legs in four days so ya might not wanna touch 'em" and i thought he would be disgusted as my last bf was..instead he said "who cares? its just hair...if ya don't wanna shave, doesn't bother me" i remember him saying it was "like chocolate syrup on chocolate icecream"
heh...i was just saying to him yesterday about the media...and i said look on your walls...posters of girls..and i said "can you imagine right now..how many 13 year old girls are looking at those exact pictures, crying, depressed, because that's what they think they're 'supposed' to look like, and now they never will"
and it makes me sick..
and women/girls say "oh i like wearing makeup to make me pretty..i want implant to have nice big boobs..i like to shave for my man"
well...my opinion..they're just weak..
if a person can't be happy with themselves the way they are, then they are weak. simple as that! no way around it.
and it's gross, it really is. i dont wear makeup..i think its udderly disgusting....and a lot of guys think the same...who wants lipstick smears and foundation rubbed all over them eh?
mascara that makes your eye lashes chunk together and rips em out when ya try to take it off....eyeshadow that makes ya look like u came from a circus..and blush...heh..blush just looks like yer one of them dolls with the big round circles on the cheeks..
what ever happened to being natural?
i mean of course, i stay clean, use deoderant and all..i'm not "dirty" heh...and yeh sometimes i'll perm my hair if i want something different done with it..but its always for ME, not anyone else. and no, that doesn't make me conceited...i don't undersatdn HOW ON EARTH a person can be conceited in a world where u are demanded to look, act, talk, behave in a certain way...
just my 3 cents worth
-Heather-
ps-> think the song Unpretty by TLC says a lot too
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Date: 2002-01-27 06:58 am (UTC)Sometimes I do need to shave my ankles, because sometimes they itch.
None of my adult male friends have any idea why women shave their armpits. I've asked most of them. Er, no, I tell a lie. One of them shaves all his hair, too, so he doesn't understand why people _don't_ shave.
My partner thinks shaved legs look and feel "icky and strange".
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Date: 2002-01-27 09:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-01-27 05:04 pm (UTC)Body hair that sits around quietly is perfectly fine, but when it starts making noise, it can be a little worrisome. Not to mention distracting.
:)
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Date: 2002-01-27 11:13 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2002-01-27 11:14 pm (UTC)love yourself, honey. just block it out and love yourself. (which is the last thing the advertisers and right-wing patriarchy want us to do)
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Date: 2002-01-27 11:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-01-27 09:43 pm (UTC)Unfortunately I am a pessimist and think there will always be plenty of assholes out there (of both genders). So maybe the rest of us could start a commune somewhere?
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Date: 2002-01-27 10:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-01-29 06:18 pm (UTC)i agree with what you wrote. it seems like a lot of girls nowadays want to be just like the girls they see on tv and in movies. especially in the cities. i just spent a year in austin texas, and i saw more 12-16 year olds trying to look and act like 20-30 year olds. day cares at the middle school and high school for the kid's children, wearing brittany spear's clothing that shows off their pits and parts, wearing tons of make-up and taking about what part they want "done" so it looks right. where i'm from, (vermont) its in the middle of no where. i get two tv channels. i don't think i was subjected to so much media input on what they think is popular, or the in thing to wear/read/do/listen to or act. i just hope that if and when i have a daughter she can think for herself and be an individual and doesn't feel as though she has to form to society's ever-changing views on what is pretty, feminine and how you're suppose to look.
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Date: 2002-01-30 11:38 am (UTC)i lived in austin for eight months and noticed the same thing. and everyone on sixth street is straight outta VOGUE.
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Date: 2002-01-30 11:09 pm (UTC)my high school has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the NATION, from what I understand. and not only is there a infant care center -- there's a long waiting list for it.
sad.
Re: hair down there
Date: 2002-01-30 01:34 pm (UTC)i like "moo moo."
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