[identity profile] depth-unknown.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] menstrualhut
Okay, so one of my guy friends says that a lot of females become bisexual because they don't get what they need from guys. (Like attention. They're not popular with the guy.) Do you think there is any validity to this?

(I happen to be bi, and I don't think that that's always the case. Such situations might just be the catalyst, methinks.)

Date: 2001-05-22 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ej2k.livejournal.com
You attention whore! LoL!

Bisexuality

Date: 2001-05-22 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iceblink.livejournal.com
NO, it wasn't because I wasn't getting what I need from a guy. It was because I had feelings and desire for a woman.

When your heart skips a beat upon discovering interest in a woman, I think that is a tell tale sign.

I have a husband and yet I still want a girlfriend. My husband fulfills my needs but, there is a little piece missing.

Date: 2001-05-22 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] champignon.livejournal.com
Bull doo doo.

Sounds like this guy might also think lesbians would change their mind if they just got some good dick.

Disgusting. Like all of women's desicions, attractions, and proclivities hinge on guys. Bleck.

I for one get too much attention from guys. My experience has included leaving guys who were smothering me with attention and being needy and wanting sex all the damn time.

I've had relationships with women that were much more balanced, intimate (on many levels), and mature.

Plus women are beautiful and soft and it doesn't hurt the jaw or cause gag reflexes to go down on them.

So there. Hopefully that debunks your friend's theory.

i'm in such an odd mood

Date: 2001-05-22 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hissyfit.livejournal.com
that could certainly happen, just like there are some women who become lesbians because they were abused or molested by men. there's a gtg, or "gay till graduation", phenomenon amonsgt college-aged girls. they become bisexual in college, fool around with lots and lots of people, then once they graduate, settle down with a man and never touch another woman in that way.

for some people, bisexuality is a way to get attention. for others it's a way to get what they need out of people. for others yet, it's just for fun. then there are the people for which there's no other option but bisexuality. me, for example. i can't imagine restricting my choices of a partner just because of what body they inhabit. i can't imagine living in a world that's devided so sharply into have and have not.

usually if there's a woman that can't get what she wants or needs from a man, she doesn't become bisexual. she becomes a lesbian, because why still include the possibility of a man if one isn't necessary?

Date: 2001-05-22 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freyjasgydhia.livejournal.com
Bi-Sexuality is a completness not a looking for completness(at least for me). To hinge your sexuality on whether someone pays attention to you or not is frivolous. I don't think that most people in the Bi community are that frivolous. For one thing there is a bias amoung both the hetrosexual and Gay/Lesbian communities that we are "sitting on the fence" and a "good man?woman can "make us settle down". Frankly, no-one can force me to change no matter how "gently they try to exert that force. Extremes of attention can be force in a way too. I think your friend needs to take a look at what he thinks relationships are all about. It looks like to him there are bargaining chips"If I pay attention to you, you should not look at or express interest in ANYONE ELSE". That's not natural whatever your orientation. Humans react, it's simply whether or not their priorities have been negotiated in a relationship. Have you done any research into Poly-Amory?

Re:

Date: 2001-05-22 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freyjasgydhia.livejournal.com
I'll check into some organizations and get back to you as soon as I can. How old are you anyway? I'm 32 by the way.

Re:

Date: 2001-05-22 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freyjasgydhia.livejournal.com
First of all don't let anyone tell you "oh you're young you can't know what you want." They're full of it. I knew as a teen that I was bi. Second of all, I'm not sure how much information I can get to you quickly. I leave for the hospital tomorrow morn. I'll try to get some out tonight but it may be awhile. I WILL get you information though! Take care and don't let people try and make you "see things the right way".

Date: 2001-05-22 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hissyfit.livejournal.com
it's awesome that you've come so far in discovering who you are at such a young age, and kudos to you for that, but please be safe in your choices. you have a long life in front of you yet, and i know there are people out there ready and wiating to take advantage of someone like you. i'm not saying that you're stupid or will make bad decisions, i'm just asking that you try to be careful out there. good luck on the voyage of your life, and i wish you the best.

Date: 2001-05-22 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ej2k.livejournal.com
I agree. Molestation or abuse is the root of most of it. Ohh well...it would bother me if I was in love with someone who also wanted to be with a girl. I can't share. I need to have her all to myself and be spoiled. Sorry. Well, maybe I would reconsider if she would let me fall in love with her gf too. LoL.

Date: 2001-05-22 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfbabe.livejournal.com
Molestation or abuse is the root of most of it.

...and why exactly do you say that?

Date: 2001-05-22 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hissyfit.livejournal.com
molestation or abuse is the root of most of it?!?

i think you COMPLETELY misconstrued what i just said. i said that there are INSTANCES where this may be the case. i was NEVER moslested or abused, and i had wonderful relationships with both my mother and father, and i'm polysexual (which you can think of as expanded bisexuality that encompasses male, female, genderqueer, gender neutral, transgendered, and transexual). just like bisexuality doesn't mean promiscuity, neither does polysexuality. it just means i'm keeping my options open. i'm a monogamous person, but i don't feel as though a preson has to be a specific sex or gender for me to love them.

i had a very serious, sexual relationship with a man at one point. he gave me what i needed, but in the end it just didn't work out. i was with a woman in the same way for a while. she gave me what i needed, but we ended up going our seperate ways. i'm currently with a genderqueer and extrememly happy. our relationship can't be defined as either heterosexual or homosexual since genderqueer identify as neither.

it's not about negative experiances shaping our lives away from bad things, it's about positive experiances shaping out lives toward the things that make us happy. you can't go arond saying that people have ahd bad things happen to them so that's why they acta particular way. you ahve to realize that in a lot of cases, people act the way they do because of the positive things that have happened to them.

Date: 2001-05-22 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boofany.livejournal.com
screw that.
i've never been molested and i still like girls too.
the "falling in love with her too" thing irks me.

Date: 2001-05-22 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] burgundy.livejournal.com
And what does your friend say about bisexual men?

Frankly, and not to be rude to your friend, that's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. There are some people who consciously choose their orientation, because that's what they want to be, but they are very, very few. Most lesbians really only like women. Most gay men really only like men. And most bisexuals are sincerely attracted to both. That's just how it is. Personally, I get more attention from men than I do from women, and I'm still bi. I've never been abused, molested, or mistreated, and I'm bi. All of the cute little theories that people like to form about why sexual orientations work out the way they do are just that - cute little theories, that make people feel better, but don't actually explain anything. Parenting styles, abuse, environment, what have you, anything you propose, there will be hordes of people who don't fit. Because pop psychology answers just don't cut it.

Off topic

Date: 2001-05-22 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 00goddess.livejournal.com
This entry is off-topic. Please, feel free to post this in the bisexual community, but not in the menstrual hut.

In my opinion, your guy friends are just singing sour grapes. If you're not attracted to women, no amount of conviction would make you attracted to them. Saying "oh, she's only bi because she couldn't have ME" is an exercise in ego."


00goddess

Date: 2001-05-22 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freyjasgydhia.livejournal.com
I understand that the menstrualhut is primarily about menstration but doesn't it cover all women's issues?
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