[identity profile] michelleh324.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] menstrualhut
Why are the words "menstruation" and "menopause" the way they are? You know, it happens to WOMEN not men.

Date: 2002-12-03 03:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zz
why do women complain about words starting with "men", completely ignoring etymology? :P

Date: 2002-12-04 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] almeda.livejournal.com
Etymology is the study of how words got the way they are. What words evolved into other words, changing over time in pronunciation and usage, until we get the words we have today. Any big thick dictionary should have at least a tiny etymological note on every word; for example, dictionary.com has, for menopause:
[New Latin mnopausis : meno- + Greek pausis, pause; see pause.]

In this case, 'meno-' is a root word that actually comes, originally, from a word meaning 'month' - one's monthlies, or menses, or period. Menopause means when your monthlies stop. The fact that 'men' are the three letters used to spell the plural of the word for 'male human being' in English has nothing to do with the word. :->

Date: 2002-12-13 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seren.livejournal.com
sven, what the hell are you doing in menstrual hut? :P

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Date: 2002-12-13 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seren.livejournal.com
well, yes he is :)
Mmm. Maybe I will go and stalk communities about semen. If there even are any :)

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Date: 2002-12-13 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seren.livejournal.com
mm.. i dread to think :p

Date: 2002-12-14 01:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zz
followed a link, can't remember where from

Date: 2002-12-03 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddessat3am.livejournal.com
i heard this really great comediannne once (no clue who), who pointed out those words, but also pointed out that men get hernias. there were others as well, but i can't remember them now.

Date: 2002-12-03 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krasota.livejournal.com
the roots of "man" and "menses" (from which we get menstruation and menopause) are from completely different languages.

menses is derived from the latin word for month.

the word man in Old English means "human" and it's more or less neuter. there were prefixes denoting male and female used with the word mann, but by Middle English, man came to have its modern meaning, whereas the word wyfman (female human) evolved eventually into woman.

now, etymology is fairly easy to look up if you have access to a good dictionary. you might try learning a little bit the next time you're in a bitchy mood. you might discover a whole new world.





Date: 2002-12-03 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilliah.livejournal.com
etymology aside, doesn't it seem that most of our problems begin with men anyway? ;)

Date: 2002-12-03 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haela.livejournal.com
Because the root of the word has nothing to do with men. The words come from different languages, they have different roots. Menses and menopause come from greek/latin origins for the word Month, which comes from Moon. Nothing to do with men there. The word for Man came from Old English and German. Plural, Men.

It's foolish and superficial to think that a word isn't "right" simply because three letters taken out of context make a different word. "The" contains "he" and so does "heat" and "helium", yet we don't typically think of that do we? Unfortunately, with a language containing so many thousands of words, you are bound to have words with letter combinations that, when picked apart, mean something else. Sometimes this happens with compound words where you put two words together to mean something, but more often with small word combinations it is incidental and carries no underlying meaning.

God says...

Date: 2002-12-04 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieur-sponge.livejournal.com
I think that people seemed to look too deeply into this matter. Or so it seems...
I think your complaint was kinda cute =)

God says...

Date: 2002-12-04 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monsieur-sponge.livejournal.com
Hehehe I'm not french
but i know it

That was cute too though
*prize gives*

Date: 2002-12-05 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizzvoltage.livejournal.com
*flips hair* And like, why doesn't the word "tampon" contain a short essay about how good I feel about being a womyn? Like, etymology should be, like, completely ignored, and like, even though root words exist and stuff, guys are bad!!!!!! like, totally.

Date: 2002-12-06 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-r0ck746.livejournal.com
yup
happen to women
but men face the wrath for either

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